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Ed Bundy, he was brand new and absolutely frightening.

We're learning these people are good at what they do. They're very good.

Ed Bundy was unique from most all of the serial killers that we were aware of.

He has degree in psychology. He was very bright.

He basically set the standard. He's the Jack the Ripper of the United States.

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He just potentially was a tremendous source of intelligence for us if he were conscious.

We were talking to him. He had been in death row for a number of years, but he was still a lot of victims of crimes.

He said, basically, "What do you think you are looking down here in death row?"

He said, "You're the FBI. You guys know everything. You're the geniuses. You write the books. You write the papers. You win. You want to win."

I said, "I want to do better. I want to save lives. I want you to help me."

He just said, "They want to kill me."

I said, "They want to kill you. You stay in the Florida ones and kill them."

He said, "You'd kill me too, wouldn't you?"

I said, "I wouldn't take pleasure in my job to pull the switch. You have to be a good person."

He just started looking at me and laughing.

He said, "How many times do you think I've asked that question to other people?"

He said, "They all lie. They all say they're brides. Be a good liar."

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